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I have been playing for about 1 year on a beat up Holton Collegiate cornet I've borrowed from a friend who tells me it's from the 50's. It's pretty free blowing and I like it, but I would like something that is in better shape. I don't want to spend more than a grand, I don't care if its new or used. I play mostly trad jazz. Any recommendations?
Should I go with a student type model or a more advanced model. I don't know what's a good model although I've heard the old Conn cornets are good. Dan Gicker TrmpTrim 00:00. There are lots of classic cornets that would serve you well, and virtually all of them available for less than a grand. One of special interest is the Conn CONNstellation cornet, short model, with a 0.484' bore. It's the most free-blowing, easiest-speaking cornet I own, easily surpassing even my fancy Kanstul for sound and playability.
It has a great valves, too, and the combination of highly polished chrome or nickel plating and lacquered brass is very attractive. I paid about $500 for mine, if I remember right.
There's one on eBay right now in immaculate condition that's at about that same price - not sure how much higher it will go before it sells. Its serial number puts it in the sixties, which is when mine was made. It looks as if it had never been handled by anyone! If you could get that for any amount you can afford to pay, you'd be forever thankful that you'd done it.
If I didn't already have one that's nearly in as good condition as that one, you'd be bidding against me. But I do, so you won't. Jerry in Seattle dg wrote in message. I have been playing for about 1 year on a beat up Holton Collegiate cornet I've borrowed from a friend who tells me it's from the 50's.
It's pretty free blowing and I like it, but I would like something that is in better shape. I don't want to spend more than a grand, I don't care if its new or used. I play mostly trad jazz. Any recommendations? Get yourself a widebore Boosey and Hawkes, Besson Sovereign. Best cornet money can buy, used by virtually all 'decent' brass bands (one or two use Yamaha - but a light cheap thing that only lasts 3 years).
Is the 'standard' by which all the others are judged. These other makes pale into insignificance when you hear the tone of a Sov. They're all too 'trumpety' in comparison. They go for less than a thousand - I think a good music shop in London or York will do them for about 800, but haggle - remember they're usually faced with a band wanting a FULL set of instruments to lottery money specs. You are in a much better position using your own dosh!
Cheers, Simon Clifford Leatherhead, Surrey. Kitzatwork 00:00. Hi Dan, I'm amazed that nobody (thus far) has suggested the Getzen Eterna short shepherds crook cornet! The Brasswind and Woodwind sells the silverplated version (usually in stock) as well as a beautiful variation that has a copper bell and lacquered body for slightly more. Both are around $800 as I recall. These Eternas have a wonderful traditional cornet tone, and Getzens are well-know for having fast valves. The 38A Connstellation that Jerry suggested, is a beautiful, rugged, well-built cornet, probably sturdier than the Getzen (I have a mint '67 example).
But it doesn't have, IMO, the 'real' cornet sound. It has a very powerful tone, regardless of mouthpiece (I play with a deep funnel type Yamaha 9E). I have over 30 cornets in my collection. My hands-down choice for gigs?? My '72 Getzen Eterna 800S. Bobby Hackett played a lot of horns, but frequently played an Eterna in the 60s and 70s. One other comment.
It is one of the most free-blowing cornets I've tried, so I suggest the medium (or is it ML?) bore, not the large bore. They do show up used, but not very often.
And when they do, they usually sell for $500 to $600 which isn't much less than brand-new. That should tell you something. I've heard pretty good things about the Denicola, and would love to try one myself. Only negative I heard from a friend who got one recently was that the lacquer was practically nonexistent. Apparently just enough to keep it from 'turning' until in the buyer's hands. But he was thrilled with the tone. They do have a unique 'loop-the-loop' in the bell stem between the crook and the valve entry.
Good luck, Nick DeCarlis cornet collector and jazz player Dr. Trumpet 00:00. In article, (nick d) wrote: My hands-down choice for gigs?? My '72 Getzen Eterna 800S.
Let me just add that the cornet of choice for Jim Klages, Charles Gorham and myself (not that I am in their company, but at least I'n on the list) is the Getzen Eterna. I bought mine used for Jim and have been very, very pleased with it-far more than any cornet I've owned (And, I've owned a Pre-war Besson, a Bach and a Yamaha, as well as a Conn 80a before the Getzen). I still have the Getzen, and I still have the Conn (ready to sell the Conn, though-any takers?). AL Jerry Houston 00:00.
I'd certainly defer to Nick's judgment in this case, since I've never owned a Getzen cornet. I do own an Eterna picc and an Eterna flugelhorn, and love both of them. I only hope I'll have an opportunity to own and play an Eterna cornet some day. I thought I'd mention that I've also heard only great things about Getzen's Capri model cornets. Nick, have you ever played one? If it turns out that a new Eterna is a little too pricey to consider, a new or used Capri just might be the answer. Jerry in Seattle nick d wrote in message.
These Eternas have a wonderful traditional cornet tone, and Getzens are well-know for having fast valves. The 38A Connstellation that Jerry suggested, is a beautiful, rugged, well-built cornet, probably sturdier than the Getzen (I have a mint '67 example). But it doesn't have, IMO, the 'real' cornet sound. It has a very powerful tone, regardless of mouthpiece (I play with a deep funnel type Yamaha 9E). MarkB315 00:00. Must be telepathy!!! I.JUST.
(two weeks ago) bought a 1973 Getzen Eterna cornet myself! I didn't need it, but I played it just for grins and fell INSTANTLY in love. I can attest that it is the finest playing cornet I've ever played. I'm having a first valve trigger installed (for whatever reason I cannot tell you) and it will probably be the last cornet I'll ever own.
Just one question: I'm not sure what the bore size is. The only markings that are at all defining is on the third valve slide. There is a number stamped there that appears to be '62'. Is that indicating a.462 bore? If so is this considered large of ML?
Thanks, Stanton nick d wrote: Hi DanI'm amazed that nobody (thus far) has suggested the Getzen Eterna short shepherds crook cornet! The Brasswind and Woodwind sells the silverplated version (usually in stock) as well as a beautiful variation that has a copper bell and lacquered body for slightly more. Both are around $800 as I recall. These Eternas have a wonderful traditional cornet tone, and Getzens are well-know for having fast valves. The 38A Connstellation that Jerry suggested, is a beautiful, rugged, well-built cornet, probably sturdier than the Getzen (I have a mint '67 example). But it doesn't have, IMO, the 'real' cornet sound.
It has a very powerful toneregardless of mouthpiece (I play with a deep funnel type Yamaha 9E). I have over 30 cornets in my collection. My hands-down choice for gigs?? My '72 Getzen Eterna 800S. Bobby Hackett played a lot of horns, but frequently played an Eterna in the 60s and 70s. One other comment.
It is one of the most free-blowing cornets I've tried, so I suggest the medium (or is it ML?) bore, not the large bore. Good luck, Nick DeCarlis cornet collector and jazz player dg 00:00.
Thanks to Nick and everyone who recommended instruments, I've gotten the most comments about the Getzen Eterna and I think that's what I am going to go with. I've checked out prices on the Giardinelli web site about 900-1000, so in my price range. I will probably try a schilke 11 mouthpiece, since I have heard this is a logical step up from a bach 7c, which I now use.
I had a question of clarification about the following from Nick's post: One other comment. It is one of the most free-blowing cornets I've tried, so I suggest the medium (or is it ML?) bore, not the large bore. Why would you want a medium bore as opposed to a large, if the horn is 'freeblowing'? Is the idea to have it be less freeblowing and why would this be desirable?
Just wondering. Dan Gicker B-FLAT MUSIC 00:00. I rather like my Getzen Capri shepherd's crook cornet. I bought it used, at a Potomac River Jazz Club Fleamarket, for $150.00 (c. 10 yrs ago) As a matter of fact, I used it to record most of, Hunt Plays/Teaches Arban - including the 14 Characteristic Studies. Quick valves and a nice, compact 'package, to hold.
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Keep 'Em Flying! Clyde Jerry Houston wrote: I thought I'd mention that I've also heard only great things about Getzen's Capri model cornets. Nick, have you ever played one? If it turns out that a new Eterna is a little too pricey to consider, a new or used Capri just might be the answer. Jerry in Seattle nick d 00:00. On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:35:23 -0700, 'dg' wrote: I had a question of clarification about the following from Nick's post: One other comment. It is one of the most free-blowing cornets I've tried, so I suggest the medium (or is it ML?) bore, not the large bore.
Why would you want a medium bore as opposed to a large, if the horn is 'freeblowing'? Is the idea to have it be less freeblowing and why would this be desirable? Just wondering. Hi Dan, I'll take my shot at this, but I may not put it the best way. If any of the others want to explain it better, please do. Some players find that small bore horns (we're talking vintage horns here) feel very constricted when you blow through them.
Conversely, blowing through a large bore horn may be 'freeblowing', but requires more air. Some people prefer that. In any case, nobody likes a 'stuffy' horn. I guess what I'm saying is that my medium-large bore Getzen is so free blowing, that if it were a large bore, I think I'd run out of wind halfway through a phrase. The ML 'feels' like it's large-bore. I've gotten out my getzen catalog to give you specifics: the medium large bore measures.460' the large bore measures.464' Not a lot of difference in diameter, but significant in the amount of air you can put THROUGH the tubing. Getzen makes a model higher than the 800, the 850.
I haven't played one myself. The 'wrap' (tubing design) of the 850 is more conventional than the 800, which has a very cool funky look. I find it hard to believe it (the 850) can be an even better player and worth the extra money. Let me repeat, the best price on the 800S (silver) is The Brasswind & the Woodwind. They do a lot of mail order, and can ship one with a credit card. I can't put my hands on their catalog, but I think it's around $800, which is hard to beat. Last comment, on the finish.
I think the silver horn is the choice hands-down for durability. Often silver horns sound bright, but that couldn't be farther from the truth with the Eterna. ON THE OTHER HAND, the Eterna with the copper bell and lacquered brass body is just gorgeous.
If your chemistry isn't too rough on lacquer, and you take good care of your horns, you might want to consider the copper bell version. In theory, it should be very mellow.
I know if I were to order one tomorrow, I'd choose that. Sometimes I even consider it getting one. But then I wonder how a cornet can play better than the one I have, and I stop myself. My understanding is the copper bell option takes a few extra weeks to get, while the silver is usually in stock. Don't get me wrong- I love to buy cornets! I have been accumulating vintage cornets at an alarming rate.
I've just decided that for a player, it is extremely unlikely I'll find a better all-around performer than the Getzen I have. Good luck, Nick DeCarlis stanton 00:00.
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At the risk of sounding like a 'me too' post. Nick is absolutely right about the freeblowing feel of the Getzen cornet. I had my '73 Eterna cornet measured yesterday for bore size. It is a.460, but feels so much bigger.
In support of the above statement, when I select a trumpet mouthpice I almost routinely have the throat opened to allow a little freer airflow. I do not feel that I have to have my cornet MP's opened.
Even so, the ML cornet feels larger than my ML trumpets, even with the trumpet MP opened to a 24 throat. As far as the lacquer vs silver issue, I have always previously had silver horns. However, I don't think the darker sounding instruments (i.e. Cornet, fluegel) don't seem to suffer the same loss of feeling that lacquer does to a trumpet (JMO) Regards, Stanton On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:35:23 -0700, 'dg' wrote: Why would you want a medium bore as opposed to a large, if the horn is 'freeblowing'?
Is the idea to have it be less freeblowing and why would this be desirable? Just wondering. Nick responds: Some players find that small bore horns (we're talking vintage horns here) feel very constricted when you blow through them. Converselyblowing through a large bore horn may be 'freeblowing', but requires more air.
Some people prefer that. In any case, nobody likes a 'stuffy' horn. I guess what I'm saying is that my medium-large bore Getzen is so free blowing, that if it were a large bore, I think I'd run out of wind halfway through a phrase. The ML 'feels' like it's large-bore. Donovan Bankhead 00:00. My 'Best Buy' cornet is the Kanstul CCC930.
This is an outstanding horn, that plays incredibly well. I used to own one of the Signature series cornets.
I sold it, and bought the 930, and used the money left over for other items! - Donovan Bankhead ICQ# - 14921878 Tulsa Band Instruments Call: (800)564-1676 Voice Mail: (918)637-8778 Business: Personal: 'Perfect practice makes perfect.
Careless practice makes mediocrity. No practice makes nothing.' -Harold 'Pappy' Mitchell jazz.@my-deja.com 00:00. In article, wrote: For low bucks (Underr $700 including shipping) you can have a brand new DeNicola cornet. Mine has been played by folks from Jazzers to Symphony types, tyros to pros and with the exception of the fellow who said it was 'too dark' it was roundly applauded.
This is probably the best kept secret in the cornet world. Additionally the maker is a whale of a nice guy. thomas Yes! I have one of Bobby DeNicola's 'Puje's' and it is a wonderful little instrument.
The Puje can only be described as: half trumpet/ half cornet. It uses a trumpet mouthpiece but has a shepards crook, among other things. You'd have to see it to believe it- unique. A great sound. If you get a cornet, Puje, or even trumpet from Mr.DeNicola (I tried the trumpet, and they are a based on the Selmer K modified- a great deal) non plated, they go for only $650, or $800 silver plated. Non plated they have been PAINTED (no kidding)- but they look like a Monette and will be sure to have your trumpet secton in a wonder. I haven't played the cornet but have heard great things about it, and the above gentleman is right, Bobby is a really nice guy.
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